Please let me know some more about the company with 12 team members to which you were referring at matthew_markham@brown.edu

I am also interested in hearing more about this. I have a friend who joined and I have personally seen him make a lot of money and he has only been in this for 3 weeks. He is trying to convince me to join his team but it sounds too good to be true. He claims that being under his team I wouldn’t have to do much and still get paid. You can email me at sanmiamdan@aol.com. Thank you.

None of these claims are substantiated. They have NONE of these endorsements. Vemma fits the 3 qualifications needed to be considered a pyramid scheme. Where is all this income coming from? I’ll tell you – from the ridiculously overpriced cases of this crap drink they make all these “Brand partners” buy. NOT actual sales. Where is the customer base? Or is all the income generated by these “brand partners”? I think we know the answer. I had a friend approach me with this and it was the most ridiculous thing ever. I actually felt bad for him that he wasted money. I had to hold back a laugh when he told me that a case of this shit is 160 bucks. If this was a legit company, why wouldn’t they just put their product in stores? Because they’d rather prey on college and high school students who are less likely to call this out as a pyramid scheme, and they’re making more money off selling these cases at ridiculously inflated prices. YOU SHOULD NEVER HAVE TO PAY ANY JOB ANY MONEY. THAT IS A HUGE WARNING SIGN. Jobs are about MAKING money not giving it away. I know this sounds tempting for many but stay away from this company.

First off, what I meant was that these people back the product, and know that it works, which is why they support it, I should have chose my words more carefully. Its not an official “endorsement”, but by their actions, they support the product. Secondly, pyramid schemes are illegal, Vemma would be shut down if that were the case. Thirdly, its MLM, which is one of the highest paid professions in the world, topping most that require a degree. Fourthly, its not ridiculously over priced. And its just under 160 for two cases by the way, not one. Its more expensive than red bull and monster yes. But for the vitamins and minerals that are in ity it is actually very under priced. Monsters and red bulls are bad for you, which is basically charging you 2 dollars a can (roughly) for a bunch of harmful stuff. I could fill I can with harmful stuff very easily and for a very low cost any day. But to fill a can with healthy stuff costs a lot more, consequently driving the price up some. Its basic economics. They don’t put it in stores because it is a lot more effective to advertise by word of mouth. If someone comes to you physically and offers you a free drink, you are a lot more likely to try it than paying for it in a store when you know nothing about it. This way the person can educate you on theproduct and tell you what iit’d about. Also, in MLM, there are up front fees. That’s just how it is. I want to know one successful business in the world that started out by not paying any up front money. Its not a job, jobs don’t require up front money. Jobs are for average people. Businesses however, aren’t average. They are for an elite people, and require up front money, or else everyone would have their own business. If you not willing to invest some money to make money, that’s fine. But font put down on the elite group of people who are. I can’t stand when ignorant people think they are an expert on something that they know absolutely nothing about. Good luck with you normal “job” but I have to go make money with my business now.

People a pyramid scheme has no product!!! It just shuffles money… Look it up!!! This is not a pyramid scheme educate yourselves Herbalife has been around for 20 something years same concept! Red bull chooses to market through celebrities commercials Verve uses people! I do not sell it…. But get tired of ignorant statements! A pyramid scheme is an unsustainable business model that involves promising participants payment or services, primarily for enrolling other people into the scheme, rather than supplying any real investment or sale of products or services to the public.[1][2]

IanKyleGrant if you are trying to get out and cancel that you nee to make sure you get your refund of the products or package you order. You have 30 days to get that done. But the sooner the better. So contact Vemma support immediately. Let me know if you have any other questions.

I am interested learning a lot about this. I am very skeptical, however I am also open minded as well, but I also wanna be financially secure and not lose money while doing this. I just went to an information session with some top people who make 6 figures but it still wasn’t convincing enough. The team sounds like top-notch hard workers who do make money and I want to know that I will be able to do that and not fail.

Well.. You have to put in what you want out of it.
From a insiders view, (and I am not talking about the brand Partner side), a lot of you just jump into it without realizing how it works. The money is there, but the 97% of you do not read up before signing up. The money greed bug bites you in the rear, and your left with a case of bold, and a thumb up your ass. Quit thinking that the money is going to magically appear in your bank account. Put in what you want out.

mgordon Just educate yourself dude. Don’t be the 97%.

TimoRoe  12 people in my new business is $600/month residual income. 112 people is $2,500/month residual income, PLUS $250/month vacation bonus. Like it or not this is working for me and MORE people are having success, for some, the first time ever in this industry. It’s not about the money I make, but knowing I am helping my team to rank advance faster and make money makes it more rewarding to me.

Matthew Markham  if you are still interested bud check this out. We have people rank advancing and making $600/month residual every single day. Don’t get left behind. http://nathanargenta.com/wun-lcp/

Hey Nathan, I stumbled across your blog and just wanted to say you have a hell of a blog here brother!  Very well put together.  Nice job man, keep up the great work brotha.

koreyniese  Hey Korey, thanks for the comment. I saw your following me on Twitter. I am following back and checked out your blog as well. Love how we have the same thought’s/mindset on attraction marketing for network marketers!

Getreal33 herbalife is actually being investigated by the FTC for pyramid scheme practices……

HELP! I’m currently being enticed in this whole thing. From what I’ve read/heard, Vemma is a legitimate company and I think that’s how some (usually their supporters) say it’s not a scam. This guy (well 3 of them actually) started talking to me about it and it only took 2 min. for my thought process to output, Pyramid Scheme, in my head; well MLM to be precise. They showed me some photos on their Facebook pages and even some videos; like this 1 guy got a BMW in just 2 weeks. I’m like, “Is this for real? Do they really pay you by just spreading it around and when you hit a certain quota, they award you with a car?” I’m still skeptical about the whole thing. They told me the reason why you don’t see Vemma products on retail but I still question why they only target young people to join their team. One of the people in their team (one I personally don’t know) even showed me his paycheck that says: $678 on it with a Vemma label on it that’s worth less than 2 weeks. “Wtf…”, was my response. Of course, I didn’t show any form of excitement, I just kept a rather unfazed composure. Can you talk to me about this? Please? Thank you…

i have issue at school where a student i  know has been harassed me to join the business because i going away to college he see an chance to used me but he used his network to annoy me do you have any ideas what to do

typexzeroshift  Email me for the real information, its not fair that this guy is painting Vemma in a negative spotlight just to promote his own service or product. We call these people traffic jackers. Jacking the positive traffic from Vemma searches to promote themselves.  tom@lucravate.com

ChrisBurnett  Hi..My question is to me an important question…Is the product as good as they say it is?  My Son lives in Scottsdale, AZ and if I understand it right, that is where the product is made???  If it is my Son has never heard of it and he is an Energy Drink person.  I just want to know if it is truly healthier than “Monster” as that is what I see them compare it to and does it work the same way?  I actually have a friend who has a daughter that was just at a Convention is Vegas…She and the “Team”  seem to be doing very well.  I am not looking into it for the $$$…I want to know if it is any good.  Thanks for any help.

So Nate what are you selling ?? Is it a product that works for Sick folks ? Are you taking the Product as you did with V E M M A ?? VEMMA want’s 60 Bucks a Month what is your Products Value. This reminds me of AMWAY lol. THE VEMMA is only Evacuating me and I ain’t digging it !! I can get these same Energy Drinks at the 99 cent Store …. OH and they’re 16 to 20 oz not 8. Ya I’m not jumping up and down for VEMMA or any other Product that Folks are SCREAMING for me to buy !! Nate does your product work ???

Nathan Argenta TimoRoe$600 a month? That is pretty low income, $7,200 a year is below poverty. I made the same working part-time in a basic retail job, 3-4 days a week. $2,500 is not good either – $30,000 a year – considering that you’d start out after college making double that amount with a business degree. Since you are ‘owning your own business’ as well, you need to subtract your costs to sell your product from your revenues to get your actual income. This number would make the income much smaller than what is really being made.

Hey my name is Ryan, i am looking in to joining but i would like to know more about it. Can you email me please. Ryan.taylor96@live.com. thanks

aka… you sucked at selling and your blaming Vemma

Read your shit better!!! He is not calling it a scam he just called it hard to make money with and that different…

He might blame Vemma for making it hard to make money and not being as easy as they tell you it will be.
Guys just get a reall job and make the money that way.
You can’t honestly sell this opportunity to your friends and people around you while not feeling like you are selling them shit and just more problems.

Great comment

Contact Vemma personally and tell the names and people and how and why they are pushing and forcing you to join.
Those people see that they are not making millions as they where promised and well now they are getting desperate.
Very good of you to say this out loud

This happened to be just the same. And dear friend do you know how they get that check and how they get that car by getting a lot of people like you to believe that you can have what they have. They won’t have it if it was not up to you for buying those products. They don’t want to sell this to you for your benefit they want to make money of of you and with a 2% on it well that shows how much you will need to sell and manipulate people to get under you.
For you to make your money you will need to find people to pay 600 to a grand to start that opportunity and you will have to sell that opportunity to them for you to make yor money back and make more.
Now think again they are selling you the stuff so that they can get payed not you…

I make 120 dollars a day and it’s a easy job with nice contact and it’s steady don’t have to molest people with this opportunity or make people spend money they don’t have. Honestly look at your self and know you are not making close enough to what you should get for the stress and shit Vemma puts you in

Very very sad to how badly you are abdicated on this subject. My father has his own business I have my own business and yes you do have to have money to invest but that money to don’t pay to someone’s other company every time every months. Who has a company where there are 100 to 1.000.000 others alike from. I mean that would not be a real good business and I’m not even going to explain why you are wrong because I want to you see it for your self. But this one thing you are really wrong about and that the health in this energy drink. In my country holland red bull and monster is being sold however one 2 types of energy out of the 7 of Vemma are allowed to enter the country because the others where tested and rejected on health harms and anabolic growth products. How do I know this well because my sister tested the products and honestly told me you can better drink 1l of red bull what she does not like either or agrees on being healthy but still wants me to drink more then any of these brands of Vemma …. Say enough ?

dont be talking to me like that yu dont know me!!!

People don’t understand the concept of sales. I don’t know how long he lasted in the industry. I know people that invested so much time and effort the first couple of months with very little results. It took a friend about 7 months to start implementing what he learned and start making more than 50-100 a week. The majority of people don’t join the business with skills. Most of the people who join are either in high school or college so of course it’s A LOT harder for us to make money than for people who already have sales experience. Failing IS part of network marketing. So obviously it’s hard but it all depends on the effort you put in. If you’re new at sales then it will take a lot more time and effort invested. And regular jobs don’t pay as highly as this opportunity does. For people who stick with it and are coachable and don’t give up the opportunity is there. Regular jobs are safe because they don’t require selling. But most regular jobs pay shit. So after network marketing, the best choice for someone with no sales experience is sales. That’s how you learn how to sell and fail. It will toughen your skin so you don’t take failing so easily. If you get a sales job that is commissions based and salary based then that’s the best way to go. You won’t make residual income as you would im a network marketing company but the opportunity to make more money than on a salary based job like MacDonalds is definitely there. Disclaimer: you will suck at selling for the first couple of months probably, but you will make more money than you would if you work retail or in the food industry.
And selling is not bad. People view sales with a negative connotation but if the product is effective and it’s something you need or want then be glad that someone is selling to you. You just have the option of saying yes or no. But sales is something that everyone does already. If you say you suck at speaking to people then you’re selling me on why I shouldn’t hire you over the guy who is good at speaking. If you promote a good restaurant then you are selling me why I should go there. So everyone sells including people who don’t believe in sales or hate sales people.
I understand where you’re coming from, but if you’re just educating your loved ones and showing them what they have the potential to create with the business opportunity, then you’re not creating problems for them. You’re educating them and showing an alternative. You’re not selling them dreams, you’re showing an opportunity.
And in terms of the products, why would your friends and family feel like you’re trying to get money from them? You’re just giving an alternative for products they already consume on a regular basis. You’re not creating problems by telling them that there’s an alternative to the redbull or monster that they already drink anyways. 1. It doesn’t taste like medicine like redbull or monster 2. The individual price is basically the same anyways 3. It IS much healthier than any other energy drink currently on the market. It still has sugar and caffeine of course, but there’s no energy drink out there with a higher density of nutrients. There is no health claim to the can. It doesn’t guarantee a cure or cancer or diabetes. So you’re not selling them lies. You’re replacing the can of redbull or monster by a can of verve. That’s all. If friends and family start bitching and saying that you’re just trying to sell them then say “YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT! i am trying to sell you”. You’re just trying to educate them on the benefits of drinking verve.
They can choose to pay the same retail price for shitty redbull or pay the same amount for a better alternative. So fuck them if the reason they don’t want to buy is because they think you’re just trying to take their money. At least they know you, so they SHOULD buy from you. It benefits you and them as well. Buying redbull benefits the CEO so what’s the difference? They would rather help out a CEO that created a product that tastes like medicine and creates ulcers and heart attacks and diabates? Or help out someone close who is trying to educate on a healthier alternative?. It just depends how you look at it and how they look at it.

That’s a problem with that person specifically. It’s not what the company enforces. So if anything, it is the kid’s fault, not the company. Not that I’m saying that you will blame the company as harrasing you, but it’s almost human nature to generalize. So it’s the kid’s fault, not the company’s.

Maybe you dealt with people who were just trying to make money off you, but it is not about taking money. For them maybe, but that just sucks for you. There are some leaders that just want to make money off everyone, but the majority want their team to grow with them also. There are downlines that make A LOT more money than their uplines. But it’s normal for people to blame the company or their uplines for their lack of success. People do that in almost every situation out there.

The company is starting to sell retail. I have friends who have sold to convenience stores and gas stations. So what’s the difference between this and redbull? Redbull chooses to spend millions of dollars in advertizing and marketing. If you break down the pricing, redbull and monster cost around the same as verve if sold retail. People get skeptical because they don’t see the product on the shelf. If you did then you wouldn’t feel skeptical. They grab a redbull and they don’t think twice about looking at the ingredients. You wouldn’t think twice about looking at the ingredients of a verve can if someone you knew casually told you to try it. But if someone shows a video and says “network marketing” then the skepticism comes. There’s a fine line between a LEGAL MLM company and a pyramid scheme. Are they similar in the way they are set up? Absolutely. But there IS a difference that you just have to research on your own. Research government websites. Ignore all of the blogs or personal biased responses about VEMMA. It’s likely that the person who wrote a personal response doesn’t know anything about MLM or pyramid schemes and just heard it from someone with the same biased belief. Listen to what professionals have to say about MLM. There are very successful people who are not even part of MLM who have good things to say about the industry. They also define the difference between legal and illegal. So their responses are better thought out and more credible than the biased responses of unsuccessful people who know nothing about the industry. There are business professionals and CEOs from other LEGAL MLM companies that have good things to say about the CEO of vemma. You just have to do good research.

The failure depends on you. Success also depends on you. Research the insustry and talk to leaders who HAVE success. Don’t listen to the people who have not even tried in the industry or the people who failed because they put no effort in. Listen to the 3% and not the 97%. Chances are that the 97% don’t know anything about the industry and are only listening to other people in the 97%. And the money you put in is an investment if you put equal or more effort. The top leaders have made the most investment. If you’re cheap on your business, the business will be cheap on you. But also don’t invest money if you’re not even going to invest effort. If you invest money and no effort, then you’ll lose money. That’s what happens to the majority of people. Find good leaders who will teach you to be independent. If you are coachable and can learn the skills and the industry then it is absolutely possible to help a ton of people and gain some level of success.

Do you know why it’s being investigated? Look up why and then post

If he tells you that you won’t have to do much then he’s still pretty new. You do need to put effort into MLM. It is absolutely necessary. He may frontline and place people under you, but if you don’t get personal sponsored customers then it will take you a long time to become successful. The way the compensation

mgordon You can not make make money with Vemma. It will cost you. What  they do not tell you is that you have to have an auto shipment every month to get paid 
anything. There are just a very few people making any money. I spent over $2000
and only got $10.00 back. I did work hard but got no support from the company or
sponser. Companies like  Mary Kay have meetings in their area for their people.
Vemma also tells you you cannot sell on e-bay or Amazon but people do and the
company does nothing about it

TamarahCharter carp_5 Yes everyone save their money Vemma is a scam

Vemma does not make you money. You pay them more than you make.Have to have an auto order every month to get paid anything. No support from sponser or company

I have joined vemma and i am half there and i am going crazy because i spent so much money and will spend more money and i don’t have enough money!!!!! i don’t know what to do? i can’t cancel it? can i? it is so hard now and day to find a legit site that will help you get where you want to instead and not have to pay for many things and at least just pay for one thing than get started, but most of them give you false dreams or so and make you pay for more things without knowing it…I have read so many reviews about vemma and it is all bad. it is making me having doubts…

I respect what your article. You do claim that it is not for everyone, which is real fair. Working in a cubicle or minumum wage is not for everyone either. And reading these comments makes me wonder. Both people that are for it and against it. Vemma is not some sort of cult, or trying to make you join this evil empire. Before  I joined, I was bugged by several people to join, but look at it this way. When you have a car salesman calling you to buy a car, are you gonna call his Company a scam. “No” you are not, when in reality he is persuating you to buy his product but when someone from Vemma wants to share a great opportunity, you are gonna be that ignorant and say it is a scam. I think that Is a joke. Please explain what makes this a scam. I am in Vemma and have aquired great success with it, and the reason is because I am putting effort in to it and constantly developing my business and personally working with Brad Alkazin and Alex Morton. For you guys that tell me to get a real job or get a scholarship and make my money that way,. I would rather work for myself and be surrounded with people I can influence. People who tell me that they would rather get a real job, good luck to be honest. 16 percent out of all people out of College get a job, so call this business a scam but look where you a headed.

For you guys reading this and have an open mind, please feel free to contact me…..

And let me add. With all respect Nathan, you are entrepreneur yourself and post these videos and text about why not to join Vemma, but in the bottom you have a link to join your business idea. That is just a way to market your own business. “Do not join Vemma, but join this instead”. Not a credible source to base your opionon on weither to join Vemma or not. Look up some real facts instead everyone.

I am an indian I just wanna know that how can i join being here

hhardarson10 I was sharing my experience with other people and offering them something that has been working better for me and could potentially do the same for them (whether a Vemma affiliate or not). It’s helping me out financially (by saving money and paying me when I shop, book travel or entertainment, etc.) It’s a no brainer and does not change someones buying habits in purchasing an overpriced “healthy” energy drink or juice, etc.

rjsmith6894 An former education doesn’t dictate how much you can make in this world, a self education determines your overall success. Sure I was not the smartest kid growing up and not the best at grammar. But that has not dictated my success that I am having now in life, in business, etc. And I agree with your points. Not everyone is going to make a lot of money. Actually on average only about 20% on average of people in the direct sales/network marketing industry make money. Goes back to self education. Learning something new and educating yourself on how to build a successful business (something you don’t and can’t learn in school).

JeremyPhillips I am not saying it’s a scam. I do enjoy the direct sales industry/network marketing industry. I just think the people sharing Vemma to potential new affiliates need to be real and upfront about what to expect in the business.

Joost94 I didn’t suck, I made sales with Vemma and got new customers and some reps/affiliates… I was just got to the point were I was uncomfortable selling a product that I didn’t believe in so I could make money off my friends and family. Sure maybe it’s healthy but it’s not the only alternative to help people get healthy and the cost of the products are way overpriced to make up for the compensation plan! There is SO MUCH competition in that niche that people are looking for ways to improve their health but also save money at the same time.

typexzeroshift It’s okay to be skeptical but again it’s TOO MUCH HYPE! Yes you can make money, yes you can become car qualified, etc. Keep in mind, car qualification is not a FREE car. It’s a lease for a car or payments on a new one (So you are in a contract with the dealership) If you drop rank from Vemma they will stop paying you the car bonus ($300-$500) per month. So you are screwed and left with a lease of a new BMW/Mercedes, etc. If you are looking for a REAL way to help you save money, and earn some extra income by shopping, booking travel/entertainment, dining out, etc and earn when others do the same… Contact me!

RonnieShenk Congrats on your first week in Vemma and making $260. How have things been going though now close to a year later Ronnie? And I agree Vemma is not a scam, it’s a legitimate company and I earned some money as well. What Vemma taught me thought was to keep my options open for new opportunities and change to better my life… That’s what I did and that’s why I quit Vemma because what I am doing is helping me and helping more people. Hope your doing well man. Would love to hear from you about what your doing now or if you are still with Vemma!

OK, im gonna let honesty fly. I am 18 years old and am a member of Vemma. I LOVE the product and have seen changes in my life already from the short time ive been in it. I had difficulty beleiving everything at first and getting people to sign up. And buying the products was difficult because I had very little money in the bank (due to not working after an accident) when I started. 
I am sick and tired of hearing that Vemma is a scam! if you have bad things to say about it, dont say it at all! you could maybe say “Well it didnt work for me and didnt fit in with my life, but I wish you lots of luck in the business” see? how easy was that? very!
I had a hard time with signing up people at first but I gave it my all and am now happy to say that I have 10 amazing people in my network. You guys can say what you want and harass who you want (please dont!) but I am honestly happier than ive ever been. its not for everyone but you cant just sit on your ass and expect to be able to pick the money bills off the plant beside your couch.
I may be the youngest person writing here but it feels to me like I make the most sense and am one of the few with a head on their shoulders.  
so PLEASE, just stop!

Incorrect you no longer are required to have a monthly auto ship.

Actually the products are not overpriced. They are in line with other products in this category. Truth is most earthy stuff cost a little more.

Your facts are incorrect. They don’t target only young people. And $678 in 2 weeks part time is not bad for just starting out.

Incorrect you do not need an auto ship anymore with vemma to make money. And maybe you got a bad sponsor. Also Vemma has meetings and events going on all over the country.

@checkthedox vemma isn’t a job it is a business. If you buy a franchise it’s not a job it’s a business that you have to pay to start. So if people want a job true they don’t need to pay. But like I said network marketing is not a job.

They want me to wrap my car do I have to sell something